Curse

Elithor · Feb 10, 2005, 08:31 PM // 20:31

This is an interview someone had with Jeff Strain and Cynn of Ascalon - 2 GW developers. I had posted this at my guild site, and I thought I'd add it here. I guess it is old but very informative, some of you might have seen it already. Some of the questions have obvious answers so just look for the good ones.

Q: I got the pre-order, what does it really get me?
A: It gets you into every Beta Weekend Event, first weekend of every month until ship, starting next weekend.
Q: Are you responsible for all this?
A: No, no – there is a huge team of 80 very talented people responsible for this – I am but one part.
Q: Is this game going to have more depth to it?
A: This is still Alpha – its all content from here
Q: What more can we expect to see on release of this game?
A: More missions, more quests, more monsters, more features (e.g. observer mode, guild ladder)
Q: Like more types of weapons and armor appearances too?
A: Actually lots more – like I said, it’s all content from here.
Q: Why can’t I create a guild?
A: You can create a guild – see the guild vendor in town.
Q: Can people who didn’t pre-order still get in on the beta weekends?
A: No, they can’t play – people who preorder get the goodies
Q: Will the characters, loot, and missions I have done stay during the Beta Weekends as l as long as I have the pre-order and will the logins stay the same?
A: We have not decided yet – we will post the info on our site soon
Q: Any mass emails going around too? It might be easier that way.
A: No email – we have a –very- strict policy about unsolicited email – never from us, for any reason
Q: I thought when we signed up for our account and we gave you our email that was for emailing us info.
A: Ick – no.
Q: Could you put an anti spam filter to prevent people from super spamming our chat window?
A: That’s coming soon – believe me
Q: For the spells like “rotting flesh” that have a description, but no real school (like death magic, etc) what determines their effectiveness?
A: Right now rotting flesh is “fixed” effectiveness, but will eventually have a school.
Q: Any plan to remove the “invisible walls” on the areas? That has been a great concern for new people.
A: We have received a lot of feedback about pathing and “walls” – on the to-do list for sure.
Q: Will there be more types of weapons in the final, like maces, spears, lances, etc?
A: Tons More
Q: I can’t buy skills, is that because I have too many?
A: Yes, you are given “Skill points” which are used every time that you buy a skill. You can get more skill points by completing quests, leveling, and doing bonus missions. But there is a cap so choose them carefully.
Q: So then it isn’t possible to get all the skills?
A: Theoretically you can, once you run our of skill points you will have to use class specific rings to learn the rest of the skills, however we encourage specialization, not “Jacks of all trades”
Q: What was your part in the game? (Programming, designer, etc?
A: I have been programming for three years, now I am a producer and the “interview guy”.
Q: Will there be a printed map included with the retail box?
A: Of course there will be a map, plus much more in the box.
Q: Are there any plans on including unarmed combat (for monks please?) or dual wielding?
A: Unarmed combat - Probably not in the release but a strong possibility for the first expansion. Remember, each expansion will have content on scale with first release.
Q: Will I get to keep my Character?
A: We are still deciding on what to do about retaining characters and Guilds – will announce soon.
Q: What about guilds? Will they still be registered?
A: Cant say for sure – we will make an announcement about it soon.
Q: Jeff could you elaborate on “Chapters”?
A: Chapters are the expansions, every chapter has new professions, skills, missions, quests, towns, explorable areas, monsters, etc.
Q: Are chapters downloadable or expansions have to be bought?
A: Either – We will stream it to you automatically so you can purchase directly, or you can go to the store and buy it.
Q: Will the drop rate issues for cloth bolt and hide salvaging be brought into balance with that of the other classes?
A: Drop rates, loot, crafting etc. will all get major rebalancing after WPE
Q: What will the chapters cost?
A: No pricing Details yet.
(After Multiple Flamings about “clogging up the chat window with questions”)
A: Yes, about those chat filters – Coming very soon.
Q: Will guilds be able to house things? Like equipment that you can’t carry because of space limitations?
A: Guild storage is coming soon.
Q: Any plans to implement some sort of a “dueling arena”? For 1v1 PvP challenges?
A: Its Under construction – Much requested.
Q: Will Character naming be reviewed? I saw a guy named SodaCan McPepsi earlier.
A: SodaCan McPepsi will not be filtered – we don’t want to be police – if its offensive, yes, but if it is just out of character, no.
Q: Any chance of dungeon delving adventures?
A: Full indoor environments will be a major part of an upcoming chapter – first release will be outdoors.
Q: Will there be more control over pets because my pet just runs in and gets itself killed.
A: Yes you will have more control over pets, and henchmen too.
Q: Will there be any statistic views, i.e. player death totals, etc?
A: Yes, for sure, many stats coming soon.
Q: I’ve noticed that in PvP, and PvE, my charmed pet would die and I would suffer Death Penalty for that. Any Plans for this?
A: Yes, we will probably just get rid of that.
Q: Will you be doing something about all this sell-spamming everywhere? Maybe a district for selling only and then extreme flood protection on all non-trade channels.
A: Yes, we will do something about it – our goal is that each public area is very task specific.
Q: Any plans on adding other classes maybe in additional chapters?
A: You bet – every chapter will have new professions
Q: I’ve noticed that there are multiple pets available to be charmed at the moment (Moa Bird and Lynx) but no ability to uncharm.
A: This was a bug in WPE and is being fixed. There might be a trader, like the dye trader or the item crafter, who could take your pet from you
Q: The downloadable chapters, what format will they be in? If I had to redo my system I’d hate to lose it.
A: It doesn’t matter what’s on your system, just how your account is flagged, once you own it, you own it, so you would be able to reinstall it if you need to.
Q: SO you would be able to play your account with your chapters on anyone’s computer that has it?
A: Yes!
Q: Will Ranger pet buffs be made less of a burden in later patches? Right now they take up the whole skill bar.
A: No answer for you, but the design team does actively review forums, so please post it there.
Q: How many accounts can someone make with 1 CD key?
A: Once account, four Characters.
Q: What about beta testers from around the world, can we pre order?
A: We have just solved Europe via magazine distribution, but Australia and new Zealand are still in the works. We WILL find a way to get it to you, but I have nothing definitive right now.
Q: Will all my characters be forced to belong to the same guild? Because my brothers also use my PC.
A: Number of players per PC does not matter – each player needs an accound, and guild membership is account based.
Q: What will be done about necro pets? They seem kinda useless right now with their constant health degeneration.
Player: No they aren’t. Ever seen 20 necro pets swarm Justicar Hablion? It’s a massacre. Sure necro pets suck by themselves but when you get 10 they are amazing, plus blood of the master heals ALL of them up to 60hp so that’s 600hp you are healing if you just have 10 pets.
A: That is not a universal opinion so I don’t have an answer for you right now.
Q: What will be the max level in full retail?
A: Max level is 20, by very specific design.
Q: Will there be a character wipe or can we keep our characters though to release?
A: There will most likely be a character wipe but you will probably be able to preserve your characters (Name and Appearance) You will start at level 1 in retail, and probably as soon as the first beta weekend event.
Q: Has the dev team utilized the clients bandwidth to transfer the world data in addition to the game server’s trans?
A: No, this is nothing like Bittorrent – we have plenty of Horsepower (now)
Q: I read that with the streaming technology the server would never have to go down, yet it went down the first night.
A: We needed to bring on some extra capacity the first night – the usage was…extreme.
Q: Was it a joke to put a scary looking shark in the water that can’t attack you?
A: No, its just ambient life
Q: Will there be day/night cycles in retail?
A: Day/night stormy/sunny can all cycle in a mission, but there will be no fixed day/night cycle. A night mission will be a night mission regardless of the real time.
Q: As of now, the ‘stealth’ element in the game is small, if existent at all…any plans?
A: I think there are plans to enhance stealth element.
Q: Will there be 1v1 duels? The could be handy to settle grudges or what not.
A: We are talking about an option that would et you practice against other guild members in your guild hall.
Q: When is this slated for retain?
A: Early next year, we have quite a bit of balancing tasks ahead of us.
Q: Will all the assets of the final game be in CDs, or will they have to be streamed (56K question)
A: CDs will have most of the early content, but advanced content may stream
Q: Are there plans to balance warriors heal? They shouldn’t be able to heal so often like they can right now.
A: There is going to be major rebalancing based on WPE feedback – trust me
Q: Will there be character voices?
A: The problem with voices is that they have to stream and they are large – we want to change the content constantly to reflect things that happen in the world – guild victories etc – and having npc dialog change to reflect that aswell. Using voice acting burns it forever statically, since the files would be too large to download every time they change. I know a lot of people want voice so we are looking for a middle ground.
Q: Perhaps voices like Help! or Charge! Might be added? (Like Shortcut keys)
A: Stuff like that is more likely than full dialog
Q: Will there be more than 8 people from the same guild in GvG?
A: No, only 8 people on a team at a time but you will be able to have more than one team.
Q: You said that you will be changing the content regularly, can you give me an example of what would constantly change?
A: The hunting grounds will have events that will change on a regular basis. Our intent is to create a living breathing world where new things happen all the time.
Server: And Now for a public service announcement
Q: Here it comes…
Server: The preview event is now over
Server: But wait, you say, isn’t it only 11 pm in Seattle?
Server: Well lucky you; daylight savings time started today, so the World Preview Event runs for another hour…
Q: Are there any employment opportunities for ArenaNet?
A: Not at this time – we are fully staffed – check our company site (www.arena.net) for tips on how to break into the biz.
Q: Are those of us that are beta testers at least going to keep our characters?
A: Probably but expect a wipe at some point since the beta weekend events start at level 1
Q: What ever happened to the Charr aspect of the game? Did they get canned?
A: No, the Charr will be back (in force) next weekend (Nov. 6th)
Q: Do Charr taste like chicken?
A: Yes, they do.
Q: Do you prefer chicken or beef?
A: Bundaegi *(Bundaegi is the silkworm pupa. they steam or fry it here in korea and sell it on street corners. the stuff smells nasty has been known to cause drunk westerners to spontaneously vomit. Thx Augmento)
Q: I explored every inch on the map with a guildmate and ran across some lvl 30 nps, they were too easy. Anything being done about that?
A: We’re still working on large parts of tha balance, don’t worry, next time you see a level 30. he’ll have you for lunch
Q: If you were a tree what kind would you be?
A: A money tree of course
Q: What is the guild Cap if there is one?
A: The Guild cap is 50 members as of now.
Q: Any chance of raising the Cap?
A: We are still working on the final numbers for the guilds. We don’t want huge guilds – we want everyone to know each other – having said that the number is always tunable. We will evaluate the WPE feedback, so make sure to post your thoughts on it.
Q: That is true but considering not everyone in the guild will be online at the same time, it can make it hard sometimes to play GvG.
A: We will take those sorts of things into consideration when tuning the GvG
Q: Can you shoot lasers from your eyes?
A: My kids think so, yes.
(After some guy asked if there were any other guys out there that would like to...well…you know…)
A: /squelch…no, um, /ignore…no, hmmm, /filter.../don’t listen…
Q: I noticed that you can only mix three dyes. Is that going to continue being a max for custom colors?
A: No! Certainly not – I don’t know why it prevented you from mixing further
Q: Will there be secret areas?
A: There will be secret areas in almost every map, stuff that will take you some time to find and discover. There will also be maps that unlock based on how well your “world” is doing in the international tournament.
Q: Will there be an arena where teams are arranged but on the same map every time?
A: That was the intent behind GvG and the guild hall.
Q: Will the map have names of regions after you explore them? Like the village in North Kryta?
A: Yes, it will
Q: Is there some way of determining what district we land in when traveling?
A: No, but we will try to place friends and guild mates in the same district automatically.
Q: Will the GvG offer 4v4 such as arena?
A: 4v4 guild combat is something we haven’t talked much about. Could happen
Q: Will we ever have to worry about weekly server maintenance or will there be “server transfers”?
A: No, our plan is for zero downtime – the server infrastructure is built for hot swapping of system components. For instance, our server can run multiple copies of the game simultaneously.
Q: I found an item, enchanted stone, and tried to salvage it but it wouldn’t…are those not implemented yet?
A: Some item drops aren’t salvageable; they are just raw material like that stone. Salvage armor you can use to get the raw materials out of using a salvaging kit then craft new items using those materials.
Q: Are the weekend events going to start a day earlier like with the WPE?
A: The question is, would I tell you if I knew? But in all seriousness, probably not.
Q: Have you started any work on the next expansion?
A: Nope, still a lot of work to do on this puppy.
Q: Do you have anything you personally are really excited about adding in the furure?
A: yeah, observer mode.
Q: Can you make everyone naked?
A: No, as much as I have tried throughout my life…
Server: Thanks for playing, we really appreciate your participation and hope you hade a great time.
A: Well, we had a good event, but it’s not perfect…yet. But we will throw every once of our energy, passion, and talent into. This weekend was honestly the most fun I have had on guild wars.
/kick all
WPE over

Spooky · Feb 10, 2005, 09:11 PM // 21:11

For those curious; Cynn of Ascalon is Jess Lebow, all around nice guy and the fellow in charge of writing Guild Wars' lore and story.

Bobangry · Feb 10, 2005, 10:14 PM // 22:14

The first half was new to me, the second half I've read before. All in all good info even though it's so old.

Arcala · Feb 10, 2005, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Q: I got the pre-order, what does it really get me?
A: It gets you into every Beta Weekend Event, first weekend of every month until ship, starting next weekend.

When they promise something like that, I expect them to keep it, which they clearly haven't. This really annoys me. Some might consider this to be a bit picky, of course, but I think that when they've stated something, they should stick to that.

Ah well, I'm sure there's enough threads on this subject allready, I'll just leave it. That answer just got me a bit annoyed, that's all.

-Arc

GhostRaptor · Feb 11, 2005, 12:34 PM // 12:34

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Originally Posted by Arcala

When they promise something like that, I expect them to keep it, which they clearly haven't. This really annoys me. Some might consider this to be a bit picky, of course, but I think that when they've stated something, they should stick to that.

Ah well, I'm sure there's enough threads on this subject allready, I'll just leave it. That answer just got me a bit annoyed, that's all.

-Arc

That statement was made back in October, correct? At the time, that was the intent. Since then things have come up that have caused changes in the schedule. The first, was a direct request from the players - change the Jan weekend because it clashes with New Years. No one complained when that happened.

The second was also in response to player feedback ... a lot of players stated that they were disappointed with the Jan weekend because it was all the same areas as the Dec weekend (even though it had the new quests). ANet decided to postpone the Feb weekend so they could introduce a new region (that addresses player concerns with other areas of the game as well). Again, it's a direct response to player feedback.

I don't think it's fair to run around saying "they broke their promises" when one of their major aims is to respond to player feedback. They're showing you that they are willing to incorporate player feedback into the game development ... they are showing you that they are willing to change rather than sticking to some preset plan just because 'that's the plan.'

Arcala · Feb 11, 2005, 03:58 PM // 15:58

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Originally Posted by GhostRaptor

That statement was made back in October, correct? At the time, that was the intent. Since then things have come up that have caused changes in the schedule. The first, was a direct request from the players - change the Jan weekend because it clashes with New Years. No one complained when that happened.

The second was also in response to player feedback ... a lot of players stated that they were disappointed with the Jan weekend because it was all the same areas as the Dec weekend (even though it had the new quests). ANet decided to postpone the Feb weekend so they could introduce a new region (that addresses player concerns with other areas of the game as well). Again, it's a direct response to player feedback.

I don't think it's fair to run around saying "they broke their promises" when one of their major aims is to respond to player feedback. They're showing you that they are willing to incorporate player feedback into the game development ... they are showing you that they are willing to change rather than sticking to some preset plan just because 'that's the plan.'

I would agree with you if it wasn't for one fact - I paid for my preorder. They sold me a product, and access to the first weekend of every month. I don't ever remember being asked if I would like to delay either of the two delayed weekends, and thus I feel like they've broken a promise. If it was just a regular beta I wouldn't feel this way.
I don't really mind if it's delayed or not, it doesn't really bug me either way, but it's beside the point - the point is that I did my part of the deal, and they changed their part after that without noticing me. I just checked now - they changed their site to say that the preorder grant acess to one weekend every month, not specifying the first one - but at the time I bought my preorder, then that was the info given me. I might be picky, but when I'm promised something I like that the promises are kept, eh.

-Arc

Lamaros · Feb 11, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16

You're saying they should keep to that original arrangment even though the large majority of people, who also paid for their preorders, support the changed timetable.

Just to keep you happy?

-z|o- · Feb 11, 2005, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by Lamaros

You're saying they should keep to that original arrangment even though the large majority of people, who also paid for their preorders, support the changed timetable.

Just to keep you happy?

You dont really know who is the majority. If you are implying that majority of people on some particular forum might be in favor of the time change that doesnt make those people to be a majority in general.

Anyway, my point is that you shouldnt use quantities that are not accurate to back up your statement.

Lamaros · Feb 11, 2005, 05:49 PM // 17:49

Fair enough. But the abstract point stands; if it was the case that the majority preferd/supported the change then it makes sense for it it happen. Saying it shouldn't change simply because of one person is rather selfish. The 'promise' to the customers should be kept so far as the customers want that, if you give the customers another option which they prefer then it makes sense to change. (yes this is a highly simplified discussion)

Arcala · Feb 11, 2005, 06:24 PM // 18:24

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Originally Posted by Lamaros

Fair enough. But the abstract point stands; if it was the case that the majority preferd/supported the change then it makes sense for it it happen. Saying it shouldn't change simply because of one person is rather selfish.

No, it's not selfish. I paid for my product, the other people doesn't matter in this case. It's my deal with them, and I expect them to fulfill their part, regardless of what the majority of the customers for the deal wants.

Take this (relatively simple) example. You're doing some work on your house, and you want one of your walls painted red. You contact some company who only paints redd walls to get them to paint your walls. Both you and the company agrees, they are to come and paint your walls red. Then, in the meantime, most of the company's other customers says they would rather have the company painting blue walls. The company agrees with this, and changes its way of doing things without contacting you. Then the company comes to your house and paints your wall blue, even though the deal was to paint it red.

My point is that the other customers are irrelevant in the case - like I said, it's my deal with them. I'll repeat what I said before - it doesn't bother me that I'll have to wait more for the BWE or anything, i'm not complaining about that - it's about a deal that I made with arenanet, and them not doing what they said they would do. When they say something, I expect them to stick to that, that's all.

-Arc

Ensign · Feb 11, 2005, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by Arcala

It's my deal with them, and I expect them to fulfill their part, regardless of what the majority of the customers for the deal wants.

Oh really...

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Originally Posted by Guild Wars Preorder Package

Continue your Guild Wars experience with the Guild Wars Preorder Package. The preorder package includes the following:

* An exclusive pass code which allows you to attend all Guild Wars Beta Weekend Events, the first of which begins on November 6th. Beta Weekend Events will take place one weekend of every month until release. You will have the unique opportunity to play Guild Wars as it progresses through the beta development process and to enjoy new experiences in the Guild Wars world

Virgil · Feb 12, 2005, 12:38 AM // 00:38

I would like to know if there is connection between the game and its expansions. Like can you play with a character from the retail version in the areas and missions of the expansions? Or can a character from the expansions (different classes even) go back and play in the areas and missions in the retail version. Or do you have to make a new seperate character for the expansion? And if so, will that count against your total of 4?

Yea. None of those questions can be answered now, I know. But some things to keep in mind.

Lamaros · Feb 12, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24

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Originally Posted by Arcala

Take this (relatively simple) example. You're doing some work on your house, and you want one of your walls painted red. You contact some company who only paints redd walls to get them to paint your walls. Both you and the company agrees, they are to come and paint your walls red. Then, in the meantime, most of the company's other customers says they would rather have the company painting blue walls. The company agrees with this, and changes its way of doing things without contacting you. Then the company comes to your house and paints your wall blue, even though the deal was to paint it red.

My point is that the other customers are irrelevant in the case - like I said, it's my deal with them. I'll repeat what I said before - it doesn't bother me that I'll have to wait more for the BWE or anything, i'm not complaining about that - it's about a deal that I made with arenanet, and them not doing what they said they would do. When they say something, I expect them to stick to that, that's all.

-Arc

If anyone feels like this is a good example and needs to be agued against, let me know. Otherwise...

Weezer_Blue · Feb 12, 2005, 01:35 AM // 01:35

okay...

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Originally Posted by Arcala

No, it's not selfish. I paid for my product, the other people doesn't matter in this case. It's my deal with them, and I expect them to fulfill their part, regardless of what the majority of the customers for the deal wants.

Take this (relatively simple) example. You're doing some work on your house, and you want one of your walls painted red. You contact some company who only paints redd walls to get them to paint your walls. Both you and the company agrees, they are to come and paint your walls red. Then, in the meantime, most of the company's other customers says they would rather have the company painting blue walls. The company agrees with this, and changes its way of doing things without contacting you. Then the company comes to your house and paints your wall blue, even though the deal was to paint it red.

My point is that the other customers are irrelevant in the case - like I said, it's my deal with them. I'll repeat what I said before - it doesn't bother me that I'll have to wait more for the BWE or anything, i'm not complaining about that - it's about a deal that I made with arenanet, and them not doing what they said they would do. When they say something, I expect them to stick to that, that's all.

-Arc

First of all, that's a bad analogy because the red/blue wall analogy suggests that the content is changing to something that you don't want and that A.Net promised that it would do exactly what YOU want. No one cares what you want, if what you want is a different product that A.Net is not making. Your analogy would have worked better if you said that the wall painting company said that they would paint it in a week, and they came in 3 weeks but then they did a much better job and you were happier in the end. Well no one should care if it's a little bit later because if the company feels like it, they will be late. you can't hold them to anything.

Anyway, you shouldn't whine about such a thing anyway. How many other games let you go through *actual* beta phases while the game is still being created and then, for once, listen to your feedback and change the game accordingly?

Arcala · Feb 12, 2005, 12:54 PM // 12:54

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Originally Posted by Ensign

Oh really...

Well, at the time I bought my preorder, it stated that it would give me access to the first weekend of every month. They've changed that page later, so now it is correct, yes. If that information was there when I ordered my product, then everything would've been fine - but it wasn't there.

And Weezer_Blue, you're not getting my point. They made a deal with me, and they didn't do what they said they would - that's a good reason for a complaint, even if what they chose to do instead was for the better.

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Originally Posted by Ensign

Anyway, you shouldn't whine about such a thing anyway. How many other games let you go through *actual* beta phases while the game is still being created and then, for once, listen to your feedback and change the game accordingly?

I'm not whining. I'm just taking up an issue that could've been improved, and I don't see the harm in that. In your example about the walls, I would've been annoyed at the company seing that they did something other than what they were supposed to do, without giving me a say in the matter. Say, for instance, that I needed that wall red for a specific date - say I was going to host a wedding in my house, or something. The company then would've interfered with my plans without notifying me, and that's what I'm saying could've been done better.

-Arc

Firax · Feb 12, 2005, 03:43 PM // 15:43

I'd like to point out, that, in fact, you paid nothing for the preorder package. That $5 or what not goes towards the price of the game when you buy it in it's entirety.
You got the package for free. A gift for pledging to the buy the game (preordering).
So stop whining, and let's get this thread back on topic: Elith's interview log.

~Firax

Dragonne · Feb 13, 2005, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by Arcala

No, it's not selfish. I paid for my product, *SNIP*

In fact, you didn't. You paid for the final game (or you paid a portion of the final game's cost). You didn't pay for pre-release play time, anythign you get besides the release version of the game is gravy regardless of what you are told you are getting by anyone (even ArenaNet).

Arc, you need to get over it, seriously. You only have to pay once for the game without monthly subscription costs and you complain about such minor things that really are, in fact, quite selfish.

Arcala · Feb 13, 2005, 10:31 PM // 22:31

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Originally Posted by Dragonne

In fact, you didn't. You paid for the final game (or you paid a portion of the final game's cost). You didn't pay for pre-release play time, anythign you get besides the release version of the game is gravy regardless of what you are told you are getting by anyone (even ArenaNet).

Nope, what I bought was a "preorder pack". That pack included several things: A rebate when purchasing the game, the access to the BWE's, character name reservations, and some other things. All of that was included in the product description, and it's what I bought. Nowhere does it say that I need to purchase the full game after buying the preorder - I don't even have to use the rebate for the game. I paid for what was described, even if the income didn't go to Arenanet directly. The point is that they advertised a product for their own gain, and when I then buy the product, I make a deal with them through the retailer, and then I expect to get what I paid for.

I think that Arenanet could've at least given an apology for delaying the BWE's. Not because I feel I need to whine about the delay, but because they did something else than what was described in the deal.

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Originally Posted by Dragonne

Arc, you need to get over it, seriously. You only have to pay once for the game without monthly subscription costs and you complain about such minor things that really are, in fact, quite selfish.

Just because they're making a good game and doing overall good decisions, doesn't mean that I shouldn't be allowed to criticize them when i think they're doing something wrong, or could've done something better, IMO. I'll say it again - I'm not complaining, I'm just stating my opinion on the issue. oO

-Arc

Weezer_Blue · Feb 14, 2005, 12:06 AM // 00:06

talk about whining about nothing. A.Net didn't make any deal with you other than to let you play a beta weekend per month. They gave you a key. They gave you everything else in the box. For what? NOTHING. If you buy the game (which you are going to obviously), then you didn't pay anything. You are just whining that it's 2 weeks later. Cry me a river while playing a sad song on a violin and other such sayings. A.Net doesn't owe you anything. It's not a contract.

Cruel Skeksis · Feb 17, 2005, 11:49 AM // 11:49

Well I recall them saying one weekend per month - not the first weekend.

If you can't furnish proof then I think you are just making it up to reinforce your point.

I mean, this argument really ended with the post where its quoted that they promise to give you one weekend per month and you replied that they changed it.

Besides, I've gotten my $5 worth in a HUGE way so far. Considering the fun I've had, I don't think I've ever had a better bargain in my life... and though I did pay that $5 it does roll into the final box as a discount off the price at that time.

How can you not be satisfied with that?

It's really not about principle at all though is it?
It's more about your parents not keeping their word enough and you failing to forgive them for not being perfect, by picking at a company who has done not only a great job but has kept their promise - just not in your eyes, in the light you choose to see it in.